[NPMUG] Follow-up, major data loss during 10.6 install

Sat Sep 5 18:30:27 MDT 2009

Sorry for the previous blank message.

Wanted to say thanks for the ideas!   Going to try superduper tomorrow!

Thanks again
Charles

  iPhone

On Sep 5, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Charles Firth  
<charles at firthconsulting.com> wrote:

> I do something very similar, but with two separate dual-disk  
> mirrored external drives.
>
> I have a 500GB mirrored external WD disk (2 500GB disks mirrored)  
> with a single volume called TMBackup for Time Machine. So yeah, I'm  
> mirroring my TM backup for no good reason, but hey - it was there ;)
>
> Then I have a 1TB mirrored external WD disk (2 1TB disks mirrored)  
> that's partitioned into 2 volumes - one the exact size of my  
> laptop's HD and used with SuperDuper! for nightly cloning.
>
> And one partition called "Stuff" for my videos, music, ISOs,  
> archived data, etc (which is relying exclusively on the mirroring  
> for any kind of data protection - not great, but this stuff isn't  
> prone to accidental erasure since it's not an OS partition, and the  
> data is mostly re-creatable and non-critical. All my work/financial/ 
> etc data is on the laptop HD)
>
> I also use my iDisk (www.me.com) for off-site backup of some  
> critical stuff, like my Quickbooks data and company files. That I do  
> by hand (not a fan of the syncing software, or the Apple Backup  
> software)
>
> Charles
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Dadditude wrote:
>
>> I can't speak for others, but I have my Mac Mini (160GB drive)  
>> backing up to two partitions on a 500GB external drive as follows:
>>
>> 1. Using Carbon Copy Cloner (http://is.gd/2UVm7), I have a  
>> scheduled incremental backup every night at midnight. This is done  
>> on partition #1 of the external drive, named "Boba Fett" (since he  
>> was a clone). This partition is exactly the same size as the  
>> internal drive, and this incremental backup creates a bootable copy  
>> of my internal drive, which is great in case the internal drive  
>> fails physically.
>>
>> 2. Time Machine is set up on the second partition of the external  
>> drive, named "H.G. Wells" (for reasons which SHOULD be obvious).  
>> This second partition uses the rest of the 500GB external drive.
>>
>> It would be better to have these two backups on separate physical  
>> drives, as if something happened to my external drive, both backups  
>> could be list. This is something that I will probably address  
>> sometime in the future.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>> -- 
>> "We do not quit playing because we grow old; we grow old because we  
>> quit playing." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Charles <charles.snyder at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Data loss scares me greatly!   Question that's going to sound  
>>> really basic-  besides time machine,  what are people doing to  
>>> backup their data. Is there a better solution than time machine?
>>>
>>> Thanks and have a safe long weekend;
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>  iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Dave Sevick <dave at davesevick.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So ....  "don't it always seem to go,  you don't know what you've  
>>>> got till it's gone ...."
>>>>
>>>> My apologies to Joni Mitchell and other Ladies of the Canyon for  
>>>> recycling the lyrics  .
>>>>
>>>> ===========
>>>>
>>>> The folks I saw Thursday and today have accidentally erased all  
>>>> their data while install 10.6.  Several years of photos and music  
>>>> and email and "who knows what else .." as I was not able to  
>>>> retrieve anything.
>>>>
>>>> In the state of panic on Wednesday morning, they dug up their  
>>>> Leopard 10.5.1 CD to do a "complete install"  over a failed 10.6  
>>>> installation.
>>>>
>>>> I was not their on Wednesday to witness how it was done .... but  
>>>> listening to the story  it seems that the Snow Leopard installer  
>>>> failed once, failed a 2nd time and then they went back into old  
>>>> boxes to find 10.5  installer DVDs to "go back to the way it  
>>>> was ..."
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to spare you the rest of the story ... but I can tell  
>>>> you that loss of precious personal data, or financial data or  
>>>> even your favorite songs that you have purchased on CDs or over  
>>>> iTunes can really be heartbreaking.
>>>>
>>>> Disk Warrior saw no data I could recover.  And since new 10.5.1  
>>>> data was written over the failed 10.6 install, the likelihood of  
>>>> getting Drive Savers to get anything back was slim and very  
>>>> expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Moving forward :
>>>>
>>>> 1. We installed 10.6 over the newly created 10.5.1 and began anew !
>>>>
>>>> 2. A blessing was cast upon us when they remembered that they had  
>>>> photos and music on an iPod Touch !!!!!  We got 2375 songs back   
>>>> back with Senuti ( $18 utility ) . That was a great moment amidst  
>>>> all other bad news.   Photos did not transfer over ... the Apple  
>>>> Store will look into this with them.
>>>>
>>>> 3.  Time Machine 1TB drive was installed !
>>>>
>>>> 4.  Office 2008 was installed and updated to 12.2.1
>>>>
>>>> 5. iLife '09 was installed an fully patched.
>>>>
>>>> 6.  Grief counseling and pep talk.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> btw ... we installed the 10.6 compatible Epson R320 drivers from epson.com 
>>>>   .... they don't work !
>>>>
>>>> Researching the cause this weekend.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this story helps to educate and warn people ....
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
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